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French Lessons -- How To Create A Muslim Underclass.
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REVIEW & OUTLOOK

French Lessons
How to create a Muslim underclass.

Friday, November 11, 2005

The Wall Street Journal

"Rioting by Muslim youth in some 300 French cities and towns seems to be
subsiding after two weeks and tougher law enforcement, which is certainly
welcome news. The riots have shaken France, however, and the unrest was of
such magnitude that it has become a moment of illumination, for French and
Americans equally.

In particular, some longstanding conceits about the superiority of the
French social model have gone up in flames. This model emphasizes
"solidarity" through high taxes, cossetted labor markets, subsidies to
industry and farming, a "Ministry for Social Cohesion," powerful
public-sector unions, an elaborate welfare state, and, inevitably,
comparisons to the alleged viciousness of the Anglo-Saxon "market" model. So
by all means, let's do some comparing.


The first thing that needs illuminating is that, while the overwhelming
majority of rioters are Muslim, it is premature at best to describe the
rioting as an "intifada" or some other term denoting religiously or
culturally inspired violence. And it is flat-out wrong to claim that the
rioting is a consequence of liberal immigration policies.
Consider the contrast with the U.S. Between 1978 and 2002, the percentage of
foreign-born Americans nearly doubled, to 12% from 6.2%. At the same time,
the five-year average unemployment rate declined to 5.1% from 7.3%. Among
immigrants, median family incomes rose by roughly $10,000 for every 10 years
they remained in the country.

These statistics hold across immigrant groups, including ones that U.S.
nativist groups claim are "unassimilable." Take Muslims, some two million of
whom live in America. According to a 2004 survey by Zogby International,
two-thirds are immigrants, 59% have a college education and the overwhelming
majority are middle-class, with one in three having annual incomes of more
than $75,000. Their intermarriage rate is 21%, nearly identical to that of
other religious groups.

It's true that France's Muslim population--some five million out of a total
of 60 million--is much larger than America's. They also generally arrived in
France much poorer. But the significant difference between U.S. and French
Muslims is that the former inhabit a country of economic opportunity and
social mobility, which generally has led to their successful assimilation
into the mainstream of American life. This has been the case despite the
best efforts of multiculturalists on the right and left to extol fixed
racial, ethnic and religious identities at the expense of the traditionally
adaptive, supple American one.

In France, the opposite applies. Mass Muslim migration to France began in
the 1960s, a period of very low unemployment and industrial labor shortages.
Today, French unemployment is close to 10%, or double the U.S. rate. Unlike
in the U.S., French culture eschews multiculturalism and puts a heavy
premium on the concept of "Frenchness." Yet that hasn't provided much
cushion for increasingly impoverished and thus estranged Muslim communities,
which tend to be segregated into isolated and generally unpoliced suburban
cities called banlieues. There, youth unemployment runs to 40%, and crime,
drug addiction and hooliganism are endemic.

This is not to say that Muslim cultural practices are irrelevant. For Muslim
women especially, the misery of the banlieues is compounded by a culture of
female submission, often violently enforced. Nor should anyone rule out the
possibility that Islamic radicals will exploit the mayhem for their own
ends. But whatever else might be said about the Muslim attributes of the
French rioters, the fact is that the pathologies of the banlieues are
similar to those of inner cities everywhere. What France suffers from,
fundamentally, is neither a "Muslim problem" nor an "immigration problem."
It is an underclass problem.

French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin almost put his finger on the
problem when he promised to introduce legislation to ease the economic
plight of the banlieues. But aside from the useful suggestion of "enterprise
zones," most of the legislation smacked of big-government solutions:
community centers, training programs and so on.

The larger problem for the prime minister is that France's underclass is a
consequence of the structure of the French economy, in which the state
accounts for nearly half of gross domestic product and roughly a quarter of
employment. French workers, both in the public and private sectors, enjoy
GM-like benefits in pensions, early retirement, working hours and vacations,
sick- and maternity leave, and job security--all of which is militantly
enforced by strike-happy labor unions. The predictable result is that there
is little job turnover and little net new job creation. Leave aside the
debilitating effects of unemployment insurance and welfare on the
underclass: Who would employ them if they actually sought work?


For France, the good news is that these problems can be solved, principally
be deregulating labor markets, reducing taxes, reforming the pension system
and breaking the stranglehold of unions on economic life. The bad news is
the entrenched cultural resistance to those solutions--not on the part of
angry Muslim youth, but from the employed half of French society that
refuses to relinquish their subsidized existences for the sake of the
"solidarity" they profess to hold dear. So far, most attempts at reform have
failed, mainly due to a combination of union militancy and political
timidity.
There are lessons in France for the U.S., too. Advocates of multiculturalism
might take note of what happens when ethnic communities are excluded (or
exclude themselves) from the broad currents of national life. Opponents of
immigration might take note of the contrast between France's impoverished
Muslims and America's flourishing immigrant communities.

Above all, those who want America to emulate the French social model by
mandating health and other benefits, raising tax burdens and entrenching
union power might take note of just how sour its promises have become,
especially its promises to the poor. In the matter of "solidarity," economic
growth counts more than rhetoric."

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D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor
D. Spencer Hines
2005-11-11 18:54:18 UTC
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REVIEW & OUTLOOK

"French Lessons
How to create a Muslim underclass."

Friday, November 11, 2005

The Wall Street Journal

"Rioting by Muslim youth in some 300 French cities and towns seems to be
subsiding after two weeks and tougher law enforcement, which is certainly
welcome news. The riots have shaken France, however, and the unrest was of
such magnitude that it has become a moment of illumination, for French and
Americans equally.

Bingo! -- DSH

In particular, some longstanding conceits about the superiority of the
French social model have gone up in flames. This model emphasizes
"solidarity" through high taxes, cossetted labor markets, subsidies to
industry and farming, a "Ministry for Social Cohesion," powerful
public-sector unions, an elaborate welfare state, and, inevitably,
comparisons to the alleged viciousness of the Anglo-Saxon "market" model. So
by all means, let's do some comparing.

Let's... -- DSH

The first thing that needs illuminating is that, while the overwhelming
majority of rioters are Muslim, it is premature at best to describe the
rioting as an "intifada" or some other term denoting religiously or
culturally inspired violence. And it is flat-out wrong to claim that the
rioting is a consequence of liberal immigration policies.

Consider the contrast with the U.S. Between 1978 and 2002, the percentage of
foreign-born Americans nearly doubled, to 12% from 6.2%. At the same time,
the five-year average unemployment rate declined to 5.1% from 7.3%. Among
immigrants, median family incomes rose by roughly $10,000 for every 10 years
they remained in the country.

That's the American Way. -- DSH

These statistics hold across immigrant groups, including ones that U.S.
nativist groups claim are "unassimilable."

Take Muslims, some two million of whom live in America. According to a 2004
survey by Zogby International, two-thirds are immigrants, 59% have a college
education and the overwhelming majority are middle-class, with one in three
having annual incomes of more than $75,000. Their intermarriage rate is 21%,
nearly identical to that of other religious groups.

That's the American Way. -- DSH

It's true that France's Muslim population--some five million out of a total
of 60 million--is much larger than America's. They also generally arrived in
France much poorer. But the significant difference between U.S. and French
Muslims is that the former inhabit a country of economic opportunity and
social mobility, which generally has led to their successful assimilation
into the mainstream of American life. This has been the case despite the
best efforts of multiculturalists on the right and left to extol fixed
racial, ethnic and religious identities at the expense of the traditionally
adaptive, supple American one.

Yes, the asinine, anserine ninnies -- the Rampant Knee-jerk
Multiculturalists have come a cropper. -- DSH

In France, the opposite applies. Mass Muslim migration to France began in
the 1960s, a period of very low unemployment and industrial labor shortages.

Today, French unemployment is close to 10%, or double the U.S. rate. Unlike
in the U.S., French culture eschews multiculturalism and puts a heavy
premium on the concept of "Frenchness." Yet that hasn't provided much
cushion for increasingly impoverished and thus estranged Muslim communities,
which tend to be segregated into isolated and generally unpoliced suburban
cities called banlieues. There, youth unemployment runs to 40%, and crime,
drug addiction and hooliganism are endemic.

Sounds like the ragamuffin neighborhoods of London. -- DSH

This is not to say that Muslim cultural practices are irrelevant. For Muslim
women especially, the misery of the banlieues is compounded by a culture of
female submission, often violently enforced.

Barbaric! A constant factor in Islamofascism. -- DSH

Nor should anyone rule out the possibility that Islamic radicals will
exploit the mayhem for their own ends. But whatever else might be said about
the Muslim attributes of the French rioters, the fact is that the
pathologies of the banlieues are similar to those of inner cities
everywhere. What France suffers from fundamentally, is neither a "Muslim
problem" nor an "immigration problem." It is an underclass problem.

Precisely! Just as the British have a similar Underclass Problem. -- DSH

French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin almost put his finger on the
problem when he promised to introduce legislation to ease the economic
plight of the banlieues. But aside from the useful suggestion of "enterprise
zones," most of the legislation smacked of big-government solutions:
community centers, training programs and so on.

Enterprise Zones for the French -- and the British -- would be a Good
Thing. -- DSH

The larger problem for the prime minister is that France's underclass is a
consequence of the structure of the French economy, in which the state
accounts for nearly half of gross domestic product and roughly a quarter of
employment.

Appalling! -- DSH

French workers, both in the public and private sectors, enjoy
GM-like benefits in pensions, early retirement, working hours and vacations,
sick- and maternity leave, and job security -- all of which is militantly
enforced by strike-happy labor unions. The predictable result is that there
is little job turnover and little net new job creation. Leave aside the
debilitating effects of unemployment insurance and welfare on the
underclass: Who would employ them if they actually sought work?

Indeed. They are Averse To Work -- just like the British Underclass. --
DSH

For France, the good news is that these problems can be solved, principally
by deregulating labor markets, reducing taxes, reforming the pension system
and breaking the stranglehold of unions on economic life.

Indeed! France needs a Madame or Monsieur Thatcher to carry out a
thoroughgoing series of Thatcher Reforms -- including sharply reducing the
power of the Unions. -- DSH

The bad news is the entrenched cultural resistance to those solutions -- not
on the part of angry Muslim youth, but from the employed half of French
society that refuses to relinquish their subsidized existences for the sake
of the "solidarity" they profess to hold dear.

So far, most attempts at reform have failed, mainly due to a combination of
union militancy and political timidity.

There are lessons in France for the U.S., too.

Indeed there are. -- DSH

Advocates of multiculturalism might take note of what happens when ethnic
communities are excluded (or exclude themselves) from the broad currents of
national life. Opponents of immigration might take note of the contrast
between France's impoverished Muslims and America's flourishing immigrant
communities.

Bingo! -- DSH

Above all, those who want America to emulate the French social model by
mandating health and other benefits, raising tax burdens and entrenching
union power might take note of just how sour its promises have become,
especially its promises to the poor. In the matter of "solidarity,"
economic growth counts more than rhetoric."
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D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

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